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Suffolk, NY: Observers Booted out to Count Votes in Secret
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Suffolk, NY: Observers Booted out to Count Votes in Secret

by Steven Freeman 5/26/2009 8:00:00 PM

From Bev Harris [bev@blackboxvoting.org]
Sent: 26 May, 2009 7:08 PM

SUFFOLK (NY): OBSERVERS BOOTED OUT TO COUNT VOTES IN SECRET (you can discuss this here: http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/80408.htm )

Mainstream press is picking up on accurate framing of the issues. A New York location decided to count votes in secret; a local reporter called them out on it. We need to recognize that laws which prohibit the public from observing the vote count are in fact improper and invalid, because they transfer the power from the public to government insiders. This goes for the party-centric models as well, where political party observers are allowed but not the public.

Now, as for nonpartisan elections, we already know that some locations have taken the position that no observation by anyone -- including the parties -- will be permitted in the nonpartisan elections. Pima County Arizona took this position just a few weeks ago, blocking both the public and party observers from observing the count and the poll closing (tallying and reconciliation activities).

Regardless of whether it's (arguably) legal, we need to call secret vote-counting what it is, out loud, and advocate for roll-back of undemocratic vote-counting laws and practices. 

I am very pleased to see mainstream reporters getting involved in the right-to-know aspects in election reform. Here's a short but dead-on article, which shows that our efforts to insert the "rights" frame into election coverage are working:

The Suffolk Times - May 21, 2009: Counting votes behind closed doors is wrong

"A strange thing happened Tuesday night in Oysterponds. District officials decided to count the votes cast in Tuesday's election in secret . . . Even Oysterponds school board president Ted Webb was ushered out of the room on election night. . . . The count should be a public act. But oddly, that's not what New York state law says. According to John Conklin, a spokesman for the state Board of Elections, it's perfectly legal to exclude the public and the press from the room when votes are being tallied.

"But Bev Harris, founder and director of the Seattle-based nonprofit BlackBoxVoting.org, said a public counting process is fundamental to our system of government, based on the Declaration of Independence. 'You can't have liberty without self-government. You can't have self-government if you count votes in secret. Liberty and self-government are considered by the Declaration to be inalienable rights, endowed by our creator. You can't pass a law that takes away these freedoms," she said. "Having government insiders count votes in secret effectively transfers power from the people to the government.'"

[LET ME CLARIFY: The reporter quotes me as saying "you can't pass a law that takes away these freedoms" -- obviously, you CAN pass a law, but the law is invalid. We had laws allowing slavery, but these were ultimately deemed invalid and, even while they were in place, many citizens realized that these laws violated this nation's founding principles upon and, in actions like the Underground Railroad, acted outside those laws.]

Mainstream news article about New York secret vote-counting: http://www2.timesreview.com/ST/stories/T052109_edit 

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5/30/2009 1:33:43 AM

EDI

I agree, this should be addressed by our new president as well as congress. It should be unconstitutional to count votes in secret...It's just common sense that it's wrong this way.

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